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« on: September 29, 2007, 12:02:34 PM »


I received word last night that the Sacramento Pro and the Jan Tana will not be returning in 2008. 

This is a real setback to the women's game and it's especially disappointing considering the progress they've made as a group (competitors and promoters) over the past two competitive seasons. 

I don't know if there's time to convince the promoters to change their minds, but for those who really care (are you hearing me George and Siouxcountry??), I do believe it's worth pursuing. 
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2007, 12:26:23 PM »

they should open the ms.international to everybody !!!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 01:08:29 PM »

If it's not making money they are gonna call it.
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I would have completly turned on to to see Debbie, lenda and kim totaly nude to compete and humilited side by side some pubic nake male bodybuilder....I would have like to see her in her pure grace to gorilla over her head a nake male opponent.....
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2007, 01:46:03 PM »

they should open the ms.international to everybody !!!!

My idea too
And they have to decide quickly because some girls diet starts next week
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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2007, 03:47:20 PM »

    I wouldn't give Atlantic City a huge chance of being back, either, based on turn-out.
      Anyone here who has never attended a pro show has contributed to this mess.
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« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2007, 04:15:29 PM »

What exactly was the step forward?
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2007, 04:33:53 PM »

What exactly was the step forward?
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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2007, 05:05:27 PM »

What exactly was the step forward?

The fact that the shows were on in 2007 gave the women more Olympia-qualifying opportunities, which meant more NEW FACES - and young ones at that - on the Olympia stage. 

It also gave fans more opportunities to see contest-ready bodybuilders, something a lot of us enjoy. 

That's clearly a step forward, in my opinion, and I believe the IFBB's business model can and should be modified to allow these events to be reasonably profitable.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2007, 05:13:12 PM »

I'm inexperienced and not a great fan of the way that Pro FBBing does what it does, but it seems to me as a layman schmoe that the IFBB are like the proverbial guy spinning in ever decreasing circles and are therefore at risk of disappearing up their collective fundamental orifice.  They just don't seem to take a long-term view. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2007, 05:37:56 PM »

wow that sucks.....as a new pro, makes me very limited in my options
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2007, 05:38:59 PM »

modify in what way?
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« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2007, 07:50:38 PM »

If I could get Annie, Cindy, Na Na, Sarah, Nicole, and Bonnie for a show I would probably try to figure out how to host one myself.
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2007, 08:17:17 PM »

Tre...

Same old, same old. Disappointing as always for bodybuilding.

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2007, 08:57:52 PM »

As long as these organizations keep rewarding girls with 2% body fat and faces like dudes, the sport will remain in trouble.
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« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2007, 11:47:59 PM »

agreed with the 2% bodyfat and hard faces.  I stopped going a few years ago and I was someone who went to anything and everything I could.  It's just too much.  The European shows look better to me.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2007, 12:24:29 AM »

chubs, i think it's time for another poll...see if anyone likes 2% bodyfat because I sure don't.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2007, 01:21:45 AM »

Tre...

Same old, same old. Disappointing as always for bodybuilding.



Amanda,  Just curious in your own opinion, what do you think should happen to change this?  If you had the power or if your were running the program, What things would you implement differently than what exists right now?What incentive do you have in mind for the competitors?  And what kind of promotion and marketing will you do to improve the fbb image to the general public and at the same time make it more profitable? Would bring female bodybuilding back to network and cable tv?
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2007, 05:09:25 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2007, 09:36:13 AM »

so what shows does that leave us?? Atlantic city?? is that it besides the arnold and O?
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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2007, 10:28:41 AM »

Really? Wow, that sucks. Do we know this for sure? Or is it just a rumor?

Cindy - There's also still the Europa. It still sucks though, especially because the Arnold is invitation-only.

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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2007, 11:05:13 AM »

Every year it's a step back for the women. This will put an absolute stranglehold on the womens side of the sport. To get this thing breathing again it might take some kinda massive grassroots effort for new contests. 

I think I'll roll over and go back to bed..................
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2007, 11:11:35 AM »

It's a shame they always have the contests in places that people don't want to go to except for the competitions in Las Vegas.  I think more people would go if they could combine it into a vacation.  Also with all the cable channels I'm surprised none of them have any interest in reporting about it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2007, 11:13:55 AM »

its a tough go, there are enough fbb fans out there to support shows...the problem is that fans like fbbs are so scattered about there is not a large central location for tyhem that makes pinpointing a prime location for a womens show all that much harder.  The other thing is a lot of us fbb fans are like the guy that Valentina recently married grocery clerks that are basically making ends meet with not a lot of money to spare.   I am in this group too i cant afford to go to Atlantic City for a weekend after i have already been to Cleveland and the Arnold for shows this year .    the ticket office and funding is where it ultimately counts and if its not there then no show.  
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2007, 11:17:52 AM »

its a tough go, there are enough fbb fans out there to support shows...the problem is that fans like fbbs are so scattered about there is not a large central location for tyhem that makes pinpointing a prime location for a womens show all that much harder.  The other thing is a lot of us fbb fans are like the guy that Valentina recently married grocery clerks that are basically making ends meet with not a lot of money to spare.   I am in this group too i cant afford to go to Atlantic City for a weekend after i have already been to Cleveland and the Arnold for shows this year .    the ticket office and funding is where it ultimately counts and if its not there then no show. 

Part of the problem is that people go to the wrong cities for shows, like going to Cleveland for the Arnold. And Scottnva is right, many of us are Alaskan grocery clerks.

However, the real reason is that there are simply not enough people interested in the sport. You can fit all the shmoes that are willing to show their faces at FBB shows into a high school auditorium. There is no way to fix this problem.
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« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2007, 11:32:52 AM »

Are there still alot of men's pro bodybuilding shows or is it a trend for them also?  The title of this thread suggests it's only a problem for pro fbbs.
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